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within days and more calls for investigations into the anemic police response to the violent protests. plus donald trump booted from twitter. how the president and his supporters are reacting to the loss of the president's favorite social media tool. and then growing concerns about the safety of joe biden's inauguration amid signs of potential threats on washington. we have a team of reporters and analysts covering all of this for us, but i do want to start with gary grumbrock covering it at the white house. i want to start with you and specifically with nancy pelosi telling the president either he has to resign at this point or face a second impeachment in days. what's the latest on that front? >> yasmin, 39 democratic senators and 204 members of the house of representatives are calling for the removal of president trump from office according to the latest nbc news tally. one of those is republican representative adam kensinger of
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illinois. he is the only republican calling for removal right now and whether it is removal or the amendment or the impeachment, either of those things have to happen in the next 11 days because 11 days from now in the stage right behind me, joe biden and kamala harris will be sworn in as the next president and vice president of the united states. going back to the articles of impeachment, they were written while these congress people were in lockdown, in hiding in the capitol. they were on the phone with their lawyers and they were writing up these articles of impeachment and i want to read a portion of it to you here. donald j. trump engaged in high skri crimes and misdemeanors by inciting violence against the government of the united states. this would be the second time that president trump has had articles of impeachment brought up against him. no other president has been brought up two times. it all comes down to house speaker nancy pelosi.
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she has called for the removal of office by impeachment or the 25th amendment. she has not specifically said whether she approves of these articles. yasmin? >> josh, take us inside the white house. you have the president banned from twitter at this point. the way in which he communicates with everybody and now he has no means of communication in that regard. there is the possiblist facing yet another impeachment with just 11 days left as gary pointed out. what's going on? >> well, the president now under fire from democrats trying to impeach him a second time, as you mentioned and unable to push back through the normal method he would be using to make his views known to his followers across the country, of course, twitter. it's not just twitter. facebook banning the president at least through inauguration and other social media companies also attempting to crack down in the wake of the riot that we saw this week that seems to have been fomented largely through
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social media and through comments by the president that went to his more than 80 million followers on twitter and through other social media others encouraging people to come to washington, d.c., on that day, to march to the capitol. we know the president and the white house they are now trying to find alternative ways for the president to circumvent the independent media and be able to speak to his followers. with the white house saying in a statement last night that they were looking at alternative platforms as well as the possibility of starting the president's own social media platform, to be able to speak directly to his followers. >> josh, just quickly here. can you talk to us about some of your new reporting when it comes to this phone call that the president made to a georgia election official, this time the state's lead election investigator. we are just learning about this today. >> that's right. we all remember that hour-long conversation the president had
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with secretary of state raffensperger in georgia that was actually recorded and later leaked to the media in which he was pressuring the secretary of state very clearly. now we know about another call that took place before that. this went to an investigator who works for raffensperger and was conducting an investigation into allegations of voter irregularities having to do with signature matching in a county in georgia. the deputy secretary of state of georgia now confirming to nbc news that that call did take place with the president, apparently pressuring investigator to find the fraud. the white house is not commenting at all on this conversation, but this is raising some even more profound questions given the implication that the president was actually trying to intervene in an active, ongoing investigation taking place there in georgia. yasmin? >> gary, josh, thank you, guys. appreciate it. i want to bring in benecol ins
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who covers the white house among other things and i want to start with big news with the president not having a megaphone and no way to communicate with his followers and supporters at this point. historically or the last four years everyone looking to twitter to see what the president was thinking. he's fired people on twitter. he's made legislative calls on twitter. we figured out where he's going and what he's doing on twitter. how are his supporters at this point? how are they reacting to the most recent ban? >> they're furious, and i can say a lot of them have completely forgotten about wednesday. they've completely forgotten about the insurrection that was caused by, in part, the president urging these people to go to the capitol. over the course of the last few weeks, people have tried over and over to get the president to give them directions, to go to the capitol. so they were kind of waiting for them to say that on wednesday
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and that's really what the problem is now. they don't have stage directions and they are furious, and that's the other issue here, as well is that that's what this was. the twitter account during -- on wednesday, during this specific insurrection, the president was attacking mike pence as those supporters were yelling "hang mike pence" in the capitol building. they are waiting and they are largely furious across the board. there are two different kinds of trump supporters. one who don't believe that this actually happened and this was antifa and the other that believe, they should do more and there should be more violence and more blood spilled, but all of them together are rallying around the idea that he should be still on twitter and that's the most important thing to talk about right now. >> it is so interesting that he was tweeting about meike pence
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while they were storming the capitol. so many people i spoke to as they were walking up the capitol, they were literally repeatinger ha repeating verbatim what the president had said about the election in the past. they were repeating verbatim what the president had said about mike pence because when i told them, mike pence said it is not within my jurisdiction to overturn the election. they didn't believe it. they were sticking by the president even when someone like mike pence said i cannot do this. so with thshgs ben. i want to talk about the inauguration and we're 11 days out at this point and not only are we seeing threats online when it comes to once again, trump supporters coming up to the capitol and they were celebrating the inauguration of joe biden. what is being done to monitor
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this activity and what kind of stuff are you seeing online. >> >> i can tell you the left timechon and the last time there were widespread terror attacks, the fbi cracked down. they started asking people who made posts how serious they were if they were going to commit another terror attack based on what happened on han. i think now they realize they had to have realized they dropped the ball again with this website and a burn of other websites that said explicitly what they were going to do january 6th and now those same accounts are saying the 17th, the 19th, the 20th. those are the days when they are looking forward to more bloodshed and more insurrection. >> they realize they can't be quite as public because they're not going to get away with it. these people know channels and they know generally how to coordinate without it all being on instagram and facebook, like
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that's what it was like last time for the last week. >> just let me ask you quickly, ben. do you feel from your understanding of the of what is in place to monitor sites like this. do you feel as if the government is up to speed and able to monitor a lot of this dark web stuff the way that they should be? >> well, for years that was the case with isis and many of the non-white terror groups. now that there are white terror groups tied to the president, there will be an investigation on what happened at the capitol. i think they have to realize now that they are going to attack cops. part of this movement is the bo boogaloo movement and they're
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exclusively for killing cops and the same thing for qanon. they think all of the lawmakers are child-eating pedophiles. i don't know what the difference is here, but they're going to take them seriously now. >> let's hope so. nbc's benecol ins for us. thank you, ben. good to talk to you. we have new video obtained by nbc news. it shows pretty disturbing and it shows just how dangerous the situation was inside of the capitol on wednesday and it is showing a group of rioters trying to break through doors that would have put them in the speaker's lobby. members of the house have said they were just yards away from this happening inside the chamber and they being hear the pounding on the door. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> go home! i'm recording and there are so
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many people. they're going to push their way up here! >> terrifying to think if you were on the other side of that door knowing how many thousands of people are just outside, just beyond the glass and could break through at any moment. so the police officers guarding that door, they eventually stepped aside and then the rioters, they reached the doorways and that is when an officer inside of the speaker's lobby shot his gun, striking ashli babbitt as she was climbing through the window. babbitt did, in fact, later die. there's also this disturbing scene. rioters trying to force their way through another door. you can see the police officer trapped inside of the doorway being crushed. you can actually see it on his face as well there. rioters began pushing in unison while yelling "heave-ho." at least one person can be seen
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trying to rip off the mask off of the officer and looking like he is in extreme pain there. so ken delaney is covering national security for us for nbc. good to talk to you this afternoon and sorry to come to you after showing that video. it is so incredibly disturbing to know what happened a couple of days ago and what the officers were going through and lawmakers were going through and i want to go back to the reporting that you released yesterday talking about the lead-up to this and the ball that was essentially dropped in preparation for january 6th. take us through it, ken. >> well, yasmin, it is now very clear that those capitol police officers that you showed were behaving valiantly and heroically and it's a scandal and that's yet chief of the capitol police are out of a job as are other key security
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officials with jurisdiction over the capitol, but that's clear and that's obvious. the capitol police did not know what's coming and they weren't prepared and they didn't have riot gear and didn't set up a perimeter. where the story is moving now, yasmin is what you and ben have been talking about is the massive intelligence failure here and the fact that benec collins was able to dig up threats of violence days before the riot, yet the fbi, the department of homeland security and the d.c. police and the pentagon have all said publicly we had no indication that anything was going to go on other than peaceful protests. they don't pass the laugh test when they were made public to reporters. there is a huge disconnect. you ask ben, why aren't these agencies monitoring this chatter by these extremists and it's not just incompetence although there may have been some of that, yasmin. there is an issue of law. when it comes to isis and
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international terrorism there are statutes that allow the fbi and foreign intelligence agencies to look very closely at what people are saying online. there is no domestic terrorism statute and it makes it much harder, fbi officials say for them to look at postings that are technically first amendment postings and free speech postings until it crosses over into violence and it clearly did. that's where the disconnect is. people were threat toeng kienin members of congress online and the fbi either missed it or didn't report it and so the capitol police weren't read per this ready for this onslaught and legislation offering to patch up what is a hole in our system of analyzing information related to domestic terror emploism, yasmi. >> it is so interesting you bring this up and they're conversations we have to have, domestic terrorism scratch otat
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we have seen a spike in domestic terrorism in this country and then there is that gap, as you say that still exist, but i can't help, but think, ken, as we're preparing for this inauguration just a couple of days away and i was speaking to ben, that we will be more prepared. how can we ramp things up. if we look at exact he where they penetrated in the capital and i want to bring in the blueprint of the capitol building and where the rioters were able to infiltrate and it is astounding the extend to which they were able to infiltrate the capitol building and you think about the threat that they may pose on january 20th, as i mentioned to ben, you can have two different types of groups in washington, d.c. on january 20th. so you could have a threat on the outside of the capitol building, and a threat to the
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inai interior of the capitol building and a threat, quite frankly to the president of the united states after the president is inaugurated on january 20th. >> you were there. those images we will not soon forget and the idea as my friend tom winter pointed out, that there aren't shatterproof glassa those capitol windows, i know it's a historic building and what experts say is that crowd -- the issue is that crowd never should have gotten anywhere close to the capitol. there should have been a defensive perimeter set up block away and police in riot gear, potentially on horseback and they declared an unlawful assembly and they steered the crowd in one direction and that didn't happen. they didn't have helmets and they were hit in the head with lead pipes and they didn't have masks and they were gassed with pepper spray. i absolutely believe that the government has woken up to this because i was at the capitol the day after and it was a woel
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different scene. all of a sudden there were huge fences put up and national guard officers in camo and tactical gears at every entrance. so they have woken up and they'll do everything they can to prevent any violence at the inauguration, but there still is an issue of what is the fbi looking at on social media. what can they look at and are they gathering the right intelligence to anticipate these threats, yasmin? >> ken, good to talk to you. thanks for joining us. >> still ahead, everybody. purging the president. that is what's coming up from the 25th amendment to the second impeachment and what are the options on the road to removal with just two days -- just day, excuse me left in president trump's term. not two days. author sam kopelman join me live after the break to talk the hows and the whys for this 11th-hour effort. we'll be right back. r effort we'll be right back. kles ] whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean.
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welcome back, everybody. breaking news from india. contac was lost this morning from a 737 with 60 people onboard the plane minutes after taking off after from indonesia's capital jakarta. they're trying to determine if the wreckage is from the aircraft. this 737 operated by a discount indonesian airline is not the new max version that was
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grounded for more than a year after two deadly crashes. we are going to continue to monitor this situation and bring you any updates, of course, as we have them. so donald trump has just over ten full days left in his term as president, but will he be gone before then? >> insurrection, sedition and attempted coup d'etat on the united states capitol is extraordinary and so it requires extraordinary measures. that's why we are proceeding with every available means that is at our disposal in order to ensure that donald trump is removed. so decmocrats are saying thy are prepared to move forward with articles of impeachment and they are to be removed by the vice president and the cabinet via the 25th amendment. >> i think yesterday it became clear that the president is
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unmoored from reality and from his oath, and i think the vice president taking over and ensuring that the next couple of weeks are a peaceful transfer is essential right now to the continuation of this strong union. >> all right. another option now being supported by a republican is mr. trump resigning. senator lisa murkowski. i want him to resign. i want him out. he has caused enough damage. >> i want to bring in the author of "impeach," and the nbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. i feel the title of his book speaks to where he stands on this, but i guess i should ask the question. so you actually wrote an op ed aside from the title of your book in which you felt like donald trump should be impeached yet again, but it was actually before what took place in the capitol. instead, it was after the phone call was revealed and the reports that he had -- the phone
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call that he had with the georgia secretary of state. take us through your thinking on this and why is it more important than ever right now. >> so at that point, we already knew that he was trying to incite an insurrection. that phone call where he asked the secretary of state to find the votes and that's the kind of criminal act that even tony soprano would know to do through a middle man. he asked someone to cheat an election for him that was recorded as president of the united states and all that we assume is that his supporters would take him seriously and we did. we said that we should impeach him for the next ten days because we want to make sure that we have don't have an erra unstable president in the white house. this is someone who tried to contest the results of an election and overturn them, and we need to hold him accountable so that future wanna be authoritarians or strong men know that if they try this again, maybe in a closer election and maybe if the house
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is the same party that they are that they won't find any more success and the idea of not impeaching donald trump and you know, as you know, have talked about impeachment for a long time. i wish i could be done talking about impeachment, but the idea of not impeaching him after he did something so grave, threatening the peaceful transfer of power, that would set a very scary precedent that could put our nation in a lot of trouble not just in over the next ten days, but over the next centuries. >> so, but before i get to this sound i want to play this sound from dan goldman and he's a 2020 house impeachment lawyer and has been on many times. i do want folks to understand where you are, as well and here's a quote from bernie sanders tweeting this. some people asked why would you impeach and convict a president who has only a few days left in office? the answer, precedent. it must be made clear that -- >> i think sam gets this just right and the president needs to
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be impeached as much for accountability as anything else, and yasmin, i was reflecting last night that in birmingham, alabama, when my former office prosecuted the 16th street church bombing that took the lives of four little girls, we took that as a court case and that bombing was 35 years old and it was no less necessary to prosecute the perpetrators and even in old age for accountability. this re-impeachment of trump travels along the same lines and now we're talking about accountability for abuse of presidential power, and the fact that he's on the way out the door doesn't make it any less incumbent upon us to set a standard that says that this sort of abuse is inappropriate, is unacceptable and will not be tolerated and we have to keep in mind that it's a course of conduct. now we have not just overtly trying to steal the election. we have scheduling,
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insurrection, organizing at least in the commonly understood sense, if not in the criminal sense in what we all saw on wednesday. we have to take the strong stand against that for the future. >> so let's play the other side of this argument. let's take a listen to dan goldman. >> you are sort of trampling on the ordinary process of impeachment just to get -- to try to remove him. >> yeah. but that's not going to happen before january 20th. everyone needs to be clear. he will not be removed by the senate before january 20th. so what are you trying to gain through impeachment? it is unclear to me that it's worth the time and energy practically speaking because it's not going to work. >> so, i mean, it's a valid point, sam. i would like you to respond to that and also, though, the possibility that the president
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could easily be tried in the senate even after he leaves office in the 20th. >> right. there is a lot of judicial conversation and legal debate around trying people after they leave, and it seems that that's totally doable and it's been done once in our history and it could be done again. i think that the conversations about the short term missed the point that i was getting at about precedent. i mean, if this were just about getting rid of donald trump for the next ten days that would be one thing and there have been these terrifying conversations about securing nuclear codes and whether people would disobey orders and that place for our country to be in is devastating and it makes sense to get it done as soon as possible and they'll bring the articles on monday and they can vote by then and be on the senate floor by wednesday and this time mitch mcconnell doesn't need to try to suppress witnesses because the whole country witnessed what happened and they could vote by the end of the week and get them out of there, but what we need to do is put a stake on the
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ground with that this kind of behavior is unacceptable. it's weird. that kind of argument sets this precedent that a president can't be impeached when they're a lame duck. imagine what that means for our country. you want a way to remove the candidate. the good thing is our founders thought about impeachment, but if we never use it it's worth willess and we have to use it when a president is undemocratic. >> i do think the argument is less can he, but more should he, right? what would we achieve in pursuing an impeachment? what would one achieve in pursuing impeachment? thanks, guys. appreciate it. good to talk to you today. >> coming up at the 4:00 p.m. hour, a newly elected congresswoman who spent most of her career in conflict zones describes what she experienced, and she joins me live with what she spencered inside the capitol
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welcome back. nothing moves faster than social media and shortly after twitter banned president trump permanently this satire account popped up showing a mustache yoed donald trump insisting that he wasn't, in fact, donald trump, it was john barron, a pseudonym that he used in the '80s trying to get -- and the president who has lost his favorite megaphone. nbc's scott cohen is joining us with more on twitter taking the stand on the president trump. thank you for joining us. twitter is the first platform essentially to make trump's suspension permanent. are other platforms going to follow suit? >> they certainly have to be looking at it, yasmin. all of the major platforms have,
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at the very least temporarily taken him down and we'll see if they make it permanent and these are, after all, businesses and donald trump had 88 million twitter followers and one of the most followed twitter accounts in the world and that is now silent, so we'll see what happens. some certainly are blasting this, particularly the president's son who blasted the move on facebook. >> i mean, it's a sad day when you're literally talking about losingy from speech. it's a sad day when big tech has more power than big government that they can censor the president of the united states. >> well, here in tech world, a lot of people are rolling their eyes at that considering all of the things that the president has been allowed to get away with for so long. >> i think this could be really difficult. i think a complaint from him
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that he hasn't been treated fairly is really not going to sit well with, you know, the many, many users who were kicked off the platforms for far less egregious participation and public debate than he was. >> as we know, twitter, for the longest time, maybe rationalized keeping the president on the platform despite questionable tweets because what he said as a public official, as the leader of the free world was relevant and was in the public interest and of course, we now know as far as twitter is concerned, the president went a bridge too far. yasmin? >> yeah. i've got to say it is also a sad day when thousands of the president's followers storm the capitol and threaten the lives of so many people. scott cohn, thank you. good to see you. >> so with just 11 days to go until president elect joe biden's inauguration, questions are growing around security
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measures that will be in place for the ceremony following wednesday's violent insurrection of the capitol and reported threats of the second attack. nbc's ali vitale is joining us. thank you for joining us on this. we've been talking about the possible threats come january 20th especially during the inauguration against the biden camp, too. are there concerns from joe biden and his team right now about inauguration safety? >> look, understandably, concerns are heightened after what we saw on capitol hill this week and the conversations that we were starting to see on various social media platforms about what could happen again and biden himself here in wilmington yesterday said he has confidence in the security that the secret service will be able to provide for this event. he said that he's going to press forward with it, and we know that this event is going to have physical elements and the kinds that we're used to seeing, but
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mostly because of the coronavirus it will be virtual and one other key thing that will make it look very, very different from past inaugurations is the president who is currently in office is not going to be there. joe biden himself said he agrees with the decision not to,a tend. and that mike pence is welcome if he wants to attend. we don't know if pence will take biden up on that offer, but really just another sign of how different this inauguration is going to look, and it comes against the backdrop of the biden team getting ready to assume office at a time where the top concern for so many americans, yes, is healing democracy and also making sure that this pandemic can be tackled and tamed. key to that effort is getting the vaccine rolled out at a much faster clip than is being rolled out right now. listen to what joe biden said about that yesterday. >> vaccines give us hope, but the rollout has been a travesty. this will be the greatest
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operational challenge, the greatest operational challenge we will ever face as a nation. we're going to need billions of dollars to get the vaccines from a vial into someone's arm, the vaccination for millions of americans. >> he talks about the billions that are going to be needed towards this logistical effort here and that's something that we're going to hear biden officially ask for in the coming weeks as he pushes forward for another round of stimulus spending over the next 11 days and in the weeks after that, we're going to see a series of competing headlines and the biden team trying to push forward on things like tackling the coronavirus and getting the vaccine out there and getting the economy back on track and also dealing with the democratic efforts that are blossoming on the hill about pushing forward over the next 11 days and that's something biden himself was ret sent. >> he agrees president trump is
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he's not fit for office. ? the next 11 days will be what we experienced this afternoon. thanks for joining us on it. >> the events have stoked an old fire after 250 years. should the district get statehood? that is a major question. some say the situation had not gotten so out of control if d.c. had state's rights. i am joined by one of the shadow senators. thank you so much for joining us on this. it's an important question and a question that's come to mind with the events that took place on wednesday evening. first, explain to me before we get into it all, explain to me your position as shadow senator. >> well, d.c. residents went to the polls and voted for me to be a united states senator, but if i go to the senate i'm not
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allowed to vote on their behalf on legislation or anything else. several territories in u.s. history have lektsed senators as part of their bid to become statehood going all of the way back to tennessee and as recently as alaska, and so while they can vote for me, i can't vote for them. it's a travesty and d.c. residents were called upon to defend democracy that day, but we're not allowed to participate in it. >> all right. so let's expand on that for a moment because i want to talk specifically about the police force and the response or lack thereof when it comes to all of those rioters storming the capitol and if we're talking about police force, we have 1500 officers that are a part of the capitol police and you have d.c., metro police and all of that in mind. both of those numbers together and yet, they still lost control. how would things be different if
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they -- our mayor and not the governor could have enacted the national guard without the need for federal intervention. we knew this was coming for days. d.c. resident his been prepared and street his been closed and there were stay away requests from downtown and the 4,000 sworn officers of the metropolitan police department kept the whole city. 1500 capitol police officers patrol serve buildings only and they were not able to make the kind of preparations that they would normally make. i've been representing d.c. since 1997, and when you go to our line of succession event like state of the union or anything like that, there are perimeters and all kinds of arrangements that did not seem to be in place that day, so we really need a deep, in-depth investigation to figure out what happened, but for a generation, d.c. residents have been told that we can't have the capitol located within a state because
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some group of people might come in and attempt to disrupt the proceedings of the congress. wow! that's happened. so it's time to give us the democratic rights that washington, d.c., residents deserve. all right. senator paul strauss of washington, d.c., thank you, senator. good to see you this afternoon. coming up in the 4:00 p.m. ever what a difference a pro-trump mob makes. we'll dive into the difference of law enforcement response we saw on wednesday compared to the social justice protests organizer, black lives matter organizer joins me at 4:00 p.m. the covid crisis with yet another record reached and the race to get americans vehicl vaccinated. >> yasmin, here in new york they can't vaccinate people fast enough. they are opening vaccine mega sites like the one behind me. i'll take you here next. d me i'll take you here next. it's a reason to come together.
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welcome back. as coronavirus case numbers spiral across the country, new york is ramping up efforts to vaccinate those at greatest risk of contracting the virus. governor andrew cuomo announced it will move into the next phase of eligible people on monday and it will open up several new clinics including a mega site in the south bronx and that's where we find lindsay riser this morning. when we heard the announcement come down from the governor, tell us about this new hub and how it's going to differ essentially from your average clinic? yeah. yasmin, it is fascinating what is going up here and they are opening up places like this to get people in and get them out quickly and get people vaccinated here. we know new york set a record for daily cases on thursday so the need could not be greater and they're expanding open up sites like this. this is a new york city vaccine
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hub. and they can vaccinate 2,000 people and the mega sites that can have 10,000 to 15,000 vaccinations a day and they are trying to open up these places in middle and high school just to keep up with that demand. they're going to be taking appointments and they open up tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. there are still a poims appointd i can tell you how to sign up in a minute and it's like a voting poll booth. you will go in, you'll go through clearly marked areas. you'll get your shot, wait 15 minutes and go on your way. you mentioned who they're expanding it to? you have frontline health care workers who are in the first phase. second phase is teachers, firefighters and i asked the deputy mayor of the health department and how they're going to keep up with the supply right now because the supply is the issue and this is what she told me. >> do you feel like there might be a backlog? like so many people will see
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this and they're going to go on the website and they're not going get an appointment in the next day, week or even month? >> look, we've been setting up and we want to make sure that appointments are ready and available and will you get an appointment tomorrow? maybe not. will of course. we want to get as many vaccines in arms as possible. it's exciting we're here today. particularly in the hardest hit community. >> nyc.gov, where people can get openings. there are openings throughout the week. >> lyindsay, thank you. good to see you. >> the world was watching events unfold on capitol hill. after the break, reaction from across the world. >> i'm reserved by condemn encouraging people to behave in the disgraceful way they did.
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thinking, the countries that have experienced something similar to what we saw happen and those who have not. take us through it. >> well, i will start off with china. b because that is the more interesting chase. and china, americans only recently have been harshly criticizing chinese behavior in hong kong. so this is their real chance to get back be an i told you so and how dare you lecture us. here in europe, the fear, the concern, the anxiety, it was very real. you sue the comments before the break where european leaders and justin trudeau of canada, feelings like for the grace of
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god, go weak. every one of the western countries have within them a powerful, growing far right populous movement that house regularly flirted with violence in the past and has made strides against better accomplished parties that have run the countries for generations. but even the far right movements here in france, thatry feeling anxiety mostly about being associated with donald trump and those people who stormed the capitol. you heard from the netherlands and benjamin netanyahu in israel. >> you can't hem but wonder the after about this. i was talking to ali about the uphill battle that joe biden will have, rebuild the economy, and the vaccination, and then you have to think about the international cope.
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the uphill battle that the united states has in regaining its footing on the international stage. nbc's matt bradley for us. good to talk to you. coming up, breaking news on the effort to impeach the president and when the process will begin. and side by side images of the wednesday riot and black lives matter reveal a stark con it's a to the americas. a discussion on the extreme disparity, and also, i was outside the capital. we will hear from reporters and lawmakers who were inside at mob breached the building. em isn't working at its best. taking metamucil everyday can help. metamucil psyllium fiber gels to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down. it also helps lower cholesterol and slow sugar absorption to promote healthy blood sugar levels. so you can feel lighter and more energetic. metamucil. support your daily digestive health.
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